They just traded a really promising young 20 year old prospect for a 34 year old. There has been lot’s of excitement about Liam Greentree. He has great size and has the potential to be a dominant power forward in the NHL.
This kind of trade by Ken Holland is exactly the same way that the Leafs turned into crap over the last year or so. Keep trading away blue-chip prospects for rental players that ultimately fail to help get them a Cup anyways.
There’s no doubt that Panarin will provide some initial excitement for the King’s fanbase. However, I’m a big picture guy. Never liked trading away promising young prospects for short term gain.
I prefer what your Habs are doing there Tony. A lot of youthful talent on that team. Habs have a bright future.
The only thing from what i have read on Greentree is his skating is average to below average. That can be a big deterrent at the NHL level and why the Kings made him available. Of course he can work on his skating, he might end up being a Justin Brazeau type, big with good hands but average skating. At any rate i think the Kings want to try to go on a playoff run with this being Kopitar’s last season but they’ll need more than the Breadman.
He was at the bar with his mother,
Some idiot was harassing her and called her a whore outside the bar
McKenna beat the shit out of the guy and busted the guys jaw
For some additional context, State College PA is college town for Penn State University, where this sort of thing is common amongst well, young people out drinking before, during, and after especially sporting events.
I won’t be one to judge McKenna here or anybody doing so in a similar situation, though of course there are heavy legal consequences for such actions, whether defensible or not.
In the US, if the guy clearly physically threatened his mother as does not appear to be the case (so far?), well we would have a different conversation, but nope, even then you still can’t just beat the crap out of somebody once you have defended yourself or somebody in your company (i.e. there is no legal punching or kicking anybody when they are already down, as opposed to simply leaving the scene).
I do know this though. The guy he beat the crap out of, especially after suffering all that pain, is very unlikely to make the same mistake again. Likely one of millions of keyboard warriors who forgot he was no longer on his phone or with a keyboard, it’s often it’s his first-time being called out after not his first time crossing such lines in public. That’s the only way some of those serial idiots and your standard town bully will learn. Or they can try it again and probably learn even harder lessons in jail, which a few will do.
This more common situation any more is also why I any more tend to stay away from many places like this when with family or close friends, including past a certain time, or in general when alone past a certain hour.
There are bars or bar-restaurants that are a comfortable walking distance from where I live. Not only is there is the higher expense than ever of going out to drink, but at one of them, there was a fight and murder in the parking lot a few years ago, and apparently it was legitimate self defense, but I live in an otherwise very safe community!
The sweet spot is that place with a good mix of people across generations but no strollers / prams or kids running around, often a “sports bar,” but other than sports bars, those places do not seem to be as numerous.
Modern reality in public in bars and some bar / restaurants and similar places in the US seems far worse today than it ever was until perhaps a decade ago, when I hardly ever had problems though I was not going out late nearly as much, but also hey, I am now older.
This is having shades of the Nick Tarnasky incident on a golf course last year. Like @Paolo_X said, keyboard warriors not realizing they’re in a public setting being dumb. Unfortunately, this is becoming more common.
Idiots bite off more than they can chew when they mess with athletes, even if they aren’t enforcers. On that note, they have a responsibility to show more restraint too as they can do much more harm than the average Joe Schmo.
This is likely to come to nothing in regards to McKenna’s rep. Joe Thornton did worse punching a Swiss goalie in the back of the head during a lockout year and he’s still being heralded into the HHOF.
That’s a fair analysis. Panarin addresses the King’s number one need: scoring
However, if they are at all serious about extending Kopitar’s career beyond the 1st Round, then Ken Holland will need to at least bring in one other half-decent piece before the trade deadline.
In regards to the McKenna bar incident, these seem like fairly serious charges for a bar fight? I mean bar fights happen all the time and nothing much comes of it, at least i would imagine. Regardless if the guy with the broken jaw pressed charges you would have to think there is some pretty good evidence that a DA or prosecutor would lay such heavy charges. I don’t know, maybe it’s a nothing burger, time will tell.
The venue matters not. I commented above. When one goes beyond clearly any claim of self defense, which itself I have not read has been claimed and even if claimed has to be determined in a court of law, one is going to get heavier charges.
This was NOT a bar fight situation that typically involves one or more dudes engaging in mutual combat.
Did you know that in some states, like Nevada, mutual combat itself is legal, though of course one can still be arrested for property damage or disturbing the peace?
The young guy mouthing off to McKenna’s mother certainly was not expecting to be called out and beaten the crap out of, and of course it’s a case of FAFO as well, oh well very early hard lesson in life for him, irrespective of whether any of the criminal charges against McKenna stand after trial.
The altercation was caught entirely on security camera footage so not much can be disputed other than what was said. It remains that McKenna punched the other guy twice and broke his jaw, the guy he punched didn’t apparently throw a punch. We’ll see how this proceeds i guess.
The funny thing is that if this had happened on the ice during a hockey game, the only charge that McKenna would get, would be a Fighting Major and 5 minutes in the Penalty Box.
This is true for most of the people in the State of Florida, which is actually not really a state, but a strange concoction and Pan-American Colony consisting of a Giant Hotel and Resort mixed with a Giant Circus and Carnival with countless tents and clowns.
If you have lived there, you know it, including especially that South Florida crowd or that Greater Orlando crowd if not living there.
